Stories, conversations, and fresh words to meet the curious and progressive faith.


Maybe you’re at a loss for meaningful, life-giving words these days.

Not information, arguments or agendas but wonder and hope that meet you in your curious and progressive faith. Meet four pastors who wander through stories and scripture, their perspectives ever-altered for a new generation of being the church.

Hosts Nora McInerny and Natalia Terfa met on the internet and their mutual admiration quickly grew into a real life friendship. Their conversations about life, loss, and God navigate faith around the stereotypes of “THAT kind of Christian”. Cafeteria Christian reclaims that pejorative for good by reminding people that you can take what you like and leave the rest.





Alter Guild

We are a podcast collective that shares a curious and progressive faith.  These shows are friendly to courage, humor, and the unknown. Each offers unique stories and styles for the sake of a deeper conversation and a bigger Christianity. Click on Podcasts to listen and maybe you’ll hear your own voice here, too.


Who We Are

We are 30-something pastors in the Minneapolis area. We believe the progressive church should take up more space in the public square with the raw and real conversations that nourish our faith. Our podcast Alter Guild was born at coffee shops on our day off, often with our kids in tow. This project continues to be our nerdy and joyful hobby, now building a collective of podcasts. We amplify these independent voices by supporting their production and building an audience together.  We hope you’ll explore each podcast finding its way to the public square through this Guild.


Meta Herrick Carlson

Meta attended seminary reluctantly, hoping it would lead to anything but parish ministry. She was soon tricked into loving precisely what she'd been avoiding, so the joke's on her.  Meta is a pastor at Bethlehem Lutheran Church Twin Cities. She and her husband live in Minneapolis with three loud and sticky kids. Meta is working on a book about the blessing of interruptions, but it's slow going because she keeps getting interrupted. 


Matthew Ian Fleming

Matthew is a recovering evangelical who opens up his bible bruises with wonder, curiosity, and a fair amount of irreverence. He is a pastor at St. Andrew Lutheran Church in Eden Prairie, Minnesota.  Matthew and his wife are consistently bossed around by two daughters who know exactly what they want.


Miriam Samuelson Roberts

Miriam Samuelson-Roberts is a pastor at Westwood Lutheran Church in St. Louis Park, MN. She loves humans, the written and spoken word, personality tests, and places where the snarky and the sacred meet. She lives in Minneapolis with her husband Daniel, daughter, and their dog Merlin.

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Derek Tronsgard

Derek is a Lutheran pastor in Wayzata, MN.  He lives there with his wife, two daughters, and their spoiled golden retriever.  In his ever decreasing free-time he is an amateur beer & coffee snob, a baseball fan, and semi-pro nerd.


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